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Post by BALLS OF STEEL on Aug 20, 2012 16:00:26 GMT -5
no level 7 slots
and you're a cheese lover because i have access to the forum admin tools
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Post by xkcdapostle on Aug 20, 2012 16:16:48 GMT -5
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Post by BALLS OF STEEL on Aug 20, 2012 16:45:54 GMT -5
unless you too would like to be forever known as a lover of cheese i suggest you make amends to your plans
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Post by xkcdapostle on Aug 20, 2012 17:13:41 GMT -5
I have always loved Cheese, especially CHEDDAR!
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Post by Avvy on Aug 23, 2012 15:17:39 GMT -5
We have talked it over and will be changing the spell slot ruling so that no caster type can have the seventh level spell slots.
The reasoning behind this is because it is unfair to allow some the use of Silent Spell slots at 7th and not to others (Wizard/Sorc would be able to take but Druid/Cleric would not be able to take it)
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Post by xkcdapostle on Aug 23, 2012 16:33:33 GMT -5
The reasoning is rather strange, it states that the Silent Spell Feat cannot be taken if there is no access to level 7 Spell Slots. When the requirement for the Silent Spell Feat is that the character has access to 1st level spells. Whilst it is true that Druids and Clerics cannot take 7th Level spell slots, one cannot see how a level in either class prevents Silent Spell being taken as they have access to 1st level spells from their first level in those classes. If considerations into class balance are being pursued, then wouldn't this trivial matter have been considered as the rules for ascension were made? If it was not, then it begs the question what motivated this decision.
Fair access to all spell slots between all casters would mean a limit of 4th level, as that is the maximum level for the classes Paladin and Ranger which only have spell levels 1-4 as opposed to the other casters with access to spell slots from 0-6. Perhaps ascension feats such as Automatic Silent Spell, that can be used to allow all the casters to cast their accessible spells silently, should be limited to none, as Paladins and Rangers would have all bar their accessible spells through levels silently cast, which is unfair to the Druids and Clerics that must ascend twice to get all their spells automatically silenced. After all, that is the argument posted for an amendment to form the current rules, or rather guidelines.
This application was made according to the rules, and a DM can seemingly overturn a rule set out by a Server Administrator. It is rather compelling to ask at what stage the rules can be guaranteed and whether it is worth the applicants effort to apply for an ascension under rules that have been stated to then be denied the application when nothing is illegal under rules made by the Administrator and when they should have been made with all benefits and costs considered for the player base. Only a change to the rules had to be made to make an application such as this to be illegal.
What situation will motivate another change to be made for another application on a rule in the Rules of Ascension?
If there is an objective one, then why wasn't it considered when the rules were defined?
What does it say of the rules if they have to be changed after a week of consideration, after months of the rules being in place?
Since this is why I disagree with the ruling, I shall nonetheless abide by them and alter the specification to form 12 new applications of different specifications for you to consider, this application shall remain open for a review. Since it cannot be guaranteed that one application will automatically be accepted, it is better to have many ideas to get one through.
As such, all, including this application for review are open for other players to discuss possible alterations to this item with the removal of the 7th level spell slot.
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Post by xkcdapostle on Aug 23, 2012 16:46:40 GMT -5
Specification Alteration Number 1:
Differences from the original specification are as follows:
Properties:
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 1
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 1
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 1
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 2
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 2
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 2
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 3
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 3
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 3
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 4
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 4
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 4
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 5
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 5
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 5
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 6
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 6
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 6
Cast Spell: Power Word, Stun (13) 1 Use/Day
Damage Resistance: Acid Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Bludgeoning Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Cold Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Divine Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Fire Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Negative Energy Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Piercing Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Positive Energy Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Slashing Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Sonic Resist 5 / -
Material Silk
Quality Masterwork
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Post by xkcdapostle on Aug 23, 2012 16:49:56 GMT -5
Specification Alteration Number 2:
Differences from the original specification are as follows:
Appearance:
Use the iit_cloak_174 picture please.
Description:
A luxurious Silken Cloak of masterwork quality, it forms around you as though the tailor had measured it for your fit. Its soft, smooth texture belies its protections from blade, fist and arrow. Spider's web, its silken lustre added to grant this strength, yet the Arcane Abjurative spells cast upon it add protections from Fire and Cold, allowing you to comfortably walk in the extremes of heat and cold with no ill effects. Knowledge thought irrevocably lost in the Libraries of the Siranda were cast upon its weaving granting protections from the Divine and Undead alike. Golden Runes were worked into the fabric, they speak of mnemonics and concepts to improve ones memory and retention of the Arcane. Weaved into the fabric on the inside is a word in an ancient script. To utter it is to be done with purpose, else you trifle with things that were not meant to be heard...
Properties:
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 1
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 1
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 1
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 2
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 2
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 2
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 3
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 3
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 3
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 4
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 4
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 4
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 5
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 5
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 5
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 6
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 6
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 6
Cast Spell: Power Word, Stun (13) 1 Use/Day
Damage Resistance: Acid Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Bludgeoning Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Cold Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Divine Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Fire Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Negative Energy Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Piercing Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Positive Energy Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Slashing Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Sonic Resist 5 / -
Material Silk
Quality Masterwork
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Post by xkcdapostle on Aug 23, 2012 16:53:20 GMT -5
Specification Alteration Number 3:
Differences from the original specification are as follows:
Description (Identified):
A luxurious Silken Cloak of masterwork quality, it forms around you as though the tailor had measured it for your fit. Its soft, smooth texture belies its protections from blade, fist and arrow. Spider's web, its silken lustre added to grant this strength, yet the Arcane Abjurative spells cast upon it add protections from Fire and Cold, allowing you to comfortably walk in the extremes of heat and cold with no ill effects. Knowledge thought irrevocably lost in the Libraries of the Siranda were cast upon its weaving granting protections from the Divine and Undead alike. Golden Runes were worked into the fabric, they speak of mnemonics and concepts to improve ones memory and retention of the Arcane. Weaved into the fabric on the inside is a word in an ancient script. To utter it is to be done with purpose, else you trifle with things that were not meant to be heard...
Description (Unidentified):
This cloak has symbols along its inside that are incomprehensible and make you feel sick as you attempt to read them. The cloak feels smooth and seems so delicate, it is a pretty piece and worth a fortune by the quality of its make. With someone of greater lore nearby, perhaps they would be able to identify the make and maker of this fine cloak.
Properties:
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 1
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 1
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 1
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 2
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 2
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 2
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 3
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 3
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 3
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 4
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 4
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 4
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 5
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 5
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 5
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 6
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 6
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 6
Cast Spell: Power Word, Stun (13) 1 Use/Day
Damage Resistance: Acid Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Bludgeoning Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Cold Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Divine Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Fire Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Negative Energy Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Piercing Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Positive Energy Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Slashing Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Sonic Resist 5 / -
Material Silk
Quality Masterwork
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Post by xkcdapostle on Aug 23, 2012 16:54:57 GMT -5
Specification Alteration Number 4:
Same as Specification Alteration Number 3 with differences regarding the appearance.
Appearance:
Use the iit_cloak_161 picture please.
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Post by xkcdapostle on Aug 23, 2012 17:00:35 GMT -5
Specification Alteration Number 5:
Same as Specification Alteration Number 2 with the following difference:
Description (Identified):
A luxurious Silken Cloak of masterwork quality, it forms around you as though the tailor had measured it for your fit. Its soft, smooth texture belies its protections from blade, fist and arrow. Spider's web, its silken lustre added to grant this strength, yet the Arcane Abjurative spells cast upon it add protections from Fire and Cold, allowing you to comfortably walk in the extremes of heat and cold with no ill effects. Knowledge thought irrevocably lost in the Libraries of the Siranda were cast upon its weaving granting protections from the Divine and Undead alike. Golden Runes were worked into the fabric, they speak of mnemonics and concepts to improve ones memory and retention of the Arcane. Weaved into the fabric on the inside is a word in an ancient script. To utter it is to be done with purpose, else you trifle with things that were not meant to be heard...
Description (Unidentified):
A silken cloak, soft to the touch and well made by its tailor.
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Post by xkcdapostle on Aug 23, 2012 17:12:27 GMT -5
Specification Alteration Number 6:
Differences from the original specification are as follows:
Description (Identified):
A luxurious Silken Cloak of masterwork quality, it forms around you as though the tailor had measured it for your fit. Its soft, smooth texture belies its protections from blade, fist and arrow. Spider's web, its silken lustre added to grant this strength, yet the Arcane Abjurative spells cast upon it add protections from Fire and Cold, allowing you to comfortably walk in the extremes of cold winter and hot desert sun with no ill effects. Knowledge thought lost in the Libraries of the Spire and Underrealm were cast upon its weaving granting protections from the Divine and Undead alike. Golden Runes were worked into the fabric, written in the Dwarven Alphabet, they speak of mnemonics and concepts to improve ones memory and retention of the Arcane. Weaved into the fabric on the inside is a word in an ancient script. To utter it is to be done with purpose, else you trifle with things that were not meant to be heard...
Description (Unidentified):
A silken cloak, soft to the touch and well made by its tailor.
Properties:
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 1
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 1
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 1
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 2
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 2
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 2
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 3
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 3
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 3
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 4
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 4
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 4
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 5
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 5
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 5
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 6
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 6
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 6
Cast Spell: Sunburst (20) 1 Use/Day
Damage Resistance: Acid Resist 10 / -
Damage Resistance: Bludgeoning Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Cold Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Divine Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Fire Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Negative Energy Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Piercing Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Positive Energy Resist 10 / -
Damage Resistance: Slashing Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Sonic Resist 10 / -
Material Silk
Quality Masterwork
Skill Bonus: Concentration +1
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Post by xkcdapostle on Aug 23, 2012 17:22:49 GMT -5
Specification Alteration Number 7:
Same as Specification Alteration Number 6, with the following differences:
Description (Identified):
A luxurious Silken Cloak of masterwork quality, it forms around you as though the tailor had measured it for your fit. Its soft, smooth texture belies its protections from blade, fist and arrow. Spider's web, its silken lustre added to grant this strength, yet the Arcane Abjurative spells cast upon it add protections from Fire and Cold, allowing you to comfortably walk in the extremes of cold winter and hot desert sun with no ill effects. Knowledge thought lost in the Libraries of the Spire and Underrealm were cast upon its weaving granting protections from the Divine and Undead alike. Golden Runes were worked into the fabric, written in the Dwarven Alphabet, they speak of mnemonics and concepts to improve ones memory and retention of the Arcane. Inset in the clasp is a Scarlet Blue Gem, were it to be activated, it would improve ones mental faculties beyond mere memory of spells...
Properties:
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 1
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 1
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 1
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 2
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 2
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 2
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 3
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 3
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 3
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 4
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 4
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 4
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 5
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 5
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 5
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 6
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 6
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 6
Cast Spell: Ioun Stone Power: Deep Red 1 Use/Day
Damage Resistance: Acid Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Bludgeoning Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Cold Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Divine Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Fire Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Negative Energy Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Piercing Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Positive Energy Resist 10 / -
Damage Resistance: Slashing Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Sonic Resist 15 / -
Material Silk
Quality Masterwork
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Post by xkcdapostle on Aug 23, 2012 17:26:17 GMT -5
Specification Alteration Number 8:
Same as Specification Number 7, with the following changes:
Properties:
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 1
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 1
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 1
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 2
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 2
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 2
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 3
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 3
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 3
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 4
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 4
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 4
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 5
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 5
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 5
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 6
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 6
Bonus Spell Slot of Level: Wizard Level 6
Cast Spell: Ioun Stone Power: Pink 1 Use/Day
Damage Resistance: Acid Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Bludgeoning Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Cold Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Divine Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Fire Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Negative Energy Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Piercing Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Positive Energy Resist 10 / -
Damage Resistance: Slashing Resist 15 / -
Damage Resistance: Sonic Resist 15 / -
Material Silk
Quality Masterwork
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Post by xkcdapostle on Aug 23, 2012 17:28:39 GMT -5
Specification Alteration Number 9:
Same as Specification Number 6 with the following difference:
Description (Identified):
A luxurious Silken Cloak of masterwork quality, it forms around you as though the tailor had measured it for your fit. Its soft, smooth texture belies its protections from blade, fist and arrow. Spider's web, its silken lustre added to grant this strength, yet the Arcane Abjurative spells cast upon it add protections from Fire and Cold, allowing you to comfortably walk in the extremes of cold winter and hot desert sun with no ill effects. Knowledge thought lost in the Libraries of the Spire and Underrealm were cast upon its weaving granting protections from the Divine and Undead alike. Golden Runes were worked into the fabric, written in the Dwarven Alphabet, they speak of mnemonics and concepts to improve ones memory and retention of the Arcane. Weaved into the fabric on the inside is a word in an ancient script. To utter it is to be done with purpose, else you unleash a power that the creatures of the dark despair...
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